Hi @Klaus Geerthsen 

I completly agree with you. There was one period I was busy in Outsystems project for 4-5 months. My environment is deleted. I lost few of the project which on user management. and few more projects. It was loss of my hard work and when I needed to refer for my work, it has all gone.

Also It was difficult to create data from backed up oml's

The policy/process of the PE is as follows:

1. Your environment goes in to sleep mode, you are informed about that by email
2. Your environment will be deleted, you get an email with a link to the backup of a solution with all your modules/apps of your environment.
3. You can provision a new PE, and load the solution.

This process is documented, also the purpose of the PE is documented, to try out and learn outsystems. It is also documented not to use PE for 'production'. 

For more information: https://success.outsystems.com/support/licensing/what_is_an_outsystems_personal_environment/

Hi Daniel 

Firstly since when are MVP's staff? But thanks for the quick response. Do you really think I don't know the policy. Do your research I started OutSystems in 2016, so I have been around and do know somethings even though it may be way less than you.
The period of sleep mode is very short these days and deletion is a few weeks later.

Those of us that use OutSystems on projects are very busy with that and so don't always have time to check on our personal environment. Yes we do have lives.
I was merely proposing that regular loyal users of this awesome platform be treated differently.

What is the relevance if I am an MVP or staff... Furthermore I don't know the experience and history of everybody on the community. I replied based on your idea, I don't oppose to your idea, I actually liked it.

As an community moderator, I would also like to remember you on the code on conduct:

https://www.outsystems.com/forums/discussion/27050/outsystems-community-code-of-conduct/

My apologies for being overly passionate and causing offence. It came across to me as being taught about the policy and how things work and did not like my idea (I took offence at that). Sorry for overreacting.

Hi Klaus, apologies accepted, and stay passionate ;)

Hi Klaus,

I understand frustration when this happens, but PEs are free. You don't pay for them, you don't have to do anything in return. But PEs do cost OutSystems money, they have to pay Amazon for it. So if you don't use them, they are recycled. I think that's a perfectly fair policy. OutSystems graciously warns you when it's going to happen, even twice or thrice if I remember correctly. If you ignore that, that's on your own peril. And even then, you can download your solution and start over again.

PEs are also introduced so people can start with OS for free, without a licence, and they are personal, it's in the name. So you being a "high-end enterprise user" doesn't matter. They're not for enterprise use.

And what do you mean you are "promoting [the OS] product"? Unless you're an OutSystems marketeer, you're making money by using OS products, so they are making you money, not the other way around. 🤷‍♂️

@OutSystems  Team

One drive, Linked in charges for subscriptions.

Apart from free environment, Outsystems can ask for periodic subscription.

Well they could, but OutSystems is 100% enterprise-focussed. Charging for PEs means that PE subscribers would become customers, with legal rights and so forth. That would mean a whole different organisation.

I think users that are super active with their personal environments should be awarded after a certain period of time, especially if they're also making forge components. @Klaus Geerthsen it would be nice if they can do this even though it will cost them but in return their open source library will grow so technically a win-win. I hope OutSystems can take a look into this.

Hi Klaus Geerthsen,

Personal environments are not deleted when unused. Instead, they go into sleep mode when inactive. You can easily retrieve and reactivate the environment whenever needed and modify its content as required.

@Deepak Raj M that's not quite true. After inactivation, the next step is deletion. You can retrieve your modules afterwards and reactivate the environment, but you cannot restore any data in that case.