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Louise Keegan
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At the moment I am learning about the OutSystems Platform by working through the training videos and publishing to my personal Outsystems cloud environment. I would like to get a look at the code that is being generated. 

I've tried searching on the forums for advice on how to do this and it appears that much of the information on how to do this is old. I have read about detaching code and have done the tutorial on this, but this is not useful as I am not currently looking to end my subscription. What is the easiest way therefore for me to accomplish this?
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04 Dec 2014
Hi Louise,

The detach source code is a feature we provide when a customer wants to part ways with OutSystems. As such, the feature is, in your case, only available in form of a tutorial, so as to inform customers that we have such feature.

Should you want to test different patterns, you can change the application provided in the tutorial and check the results by downloading its source code.

In case you are interested in a more profound evalution, you can always give us a call here.

Kind regards,
Ricardo Alves
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04 Dec 2014
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Kilian Hekhuis
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If you have a local installation of OutSystems (so not in the cloud), and have access to the file system IIS is running on (or the equivalent of the Java stack), you have access to the C# files.
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05 Dec 2014
@Louise Keegan, If you look at the IIS virtual direcotory for the app, you should be able to access binary(DLL) file in the bin directory. You can then use some decompiler (like ilspy) to access the code behind, this will at least give you some basic idea about the code generated.

and as Ricardo Alves mentioned, for more extensive evaluation, you need to contact outsystems support. 
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05 Dec 2014
@Kilian Hekhuis, you don't have access to the C# source code, you just have access to the aspx files and the .NET dll's (and some more files like CSS, javacsript, images, user controls, ...), since the projects are compiled.

You can however try to decompile them, but that's another story.
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05 Dec 2014
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Kilian Hekhuis
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Carlos: no, we actually have the C# code, in the \Program Files\OutSystems\Platform Server\share\eSpaceName\full directory. I don't known whether that's the case with everyone, but at least we have it.
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05 Dec 2014

Kilian Hekhuis wrote:

Carlos: no, we actually have the C# code, in the \Program Files\OutSystems\Platform Server\share\eSpaceName\full directory. I don't known whether that's the case with everyone, but at least we have it.


Hi Kilian,

  Actually i also wanted to see the generated code. But i didn't have a folder named Platform Server in OutSystems. What should i do?

Regards 

 Devu

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16 Feb 2018
You mentioned IIS so I thought you were talking about the ..\Platform Server\running\ folder.
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05 Dec 2014
Hi again,

Kilian, you are not wrong, but you are not quite right either. The code you see in the share folder is not commented, and is instrumented with extra code for debugging purposes. Furthermore, there are also some additional libraries whose source code is not there.

Bottom line is, you can have a look at the share folder. It will give you a glimpse of the generated code. However, the code you get from the detach source code feature is substantially different.

For more information, have a look at the detach source code tech note.

I hope this clarifies the issues presented here.

Regards,
Ricardo Alves
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05 Dec 2014
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Kilian Hekhuis
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Ricardo Alves wrote:
Kilian, you are not wrong, but you are not quite right either. The code you see in the share folder is not commented, and is instrumented with extra code for debugging purposes. Furthermore, there are also some additional libraries whose source code is not there.
Well, I wasn't implying one could use the source code from the share folder as a replacement for the detach source code stuff. The OP asked "I would like to get a look at the code that is being generated. (...) What is the easiest way therefore for me to accomplish this?", so my reply was targeted at that question.
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08 Dec 2014
"However, the code you get from the detach source code feature is substantially different."

I hope so because code in the share folder is not very maintainable :).

@Ricardo, Would you happen to have some sample application with detach source code that you can share ?

Regards
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05 Dec 2014
Hi kota,

You can take a look into the Standard Architecture with No Lock-in technote, where you'll see the steps to run a tutorial that will show you that.

Cheers,
Tiago Simões
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06 Dec 2014
Hi Kilian,

You are absolutely right, and I thank for answering so promptly. I just wanted to clarify the difference between the detach source code feature and the generated code you can find under the share folder. But, in terms of the easiest way to look at the generated code, the way to do it is the way you said.

I hope this clarified the main question. Nevertheless, should you have any more question regarding this subject, feel free to ask.

Regards,
Ricardo Alves


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09 Dec 2014

Hi Ricardo,

The source code available on the share folder, can I use it for doing a comparison, meaning can i compare 2 instances of the source code and get the differences [just to show if someone ask me what has been changed from last release vs new release].

Also can I copy the share folder source code directly into another environment IIS [i.e. development source code to QC server], will it work?

Thanks 

Shashank

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11 Aug 2016
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Kilian Hekhuis
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Shashannk,

The source code is just normal .cs files, so you can use any text file comparison tool you want to check for differences. However, I'm not sure how useful it would be to see differences in the generated code, as though it's fairly legible, it doesn't really tell you what has been changed functionally in an application. There's no comments etc. in the generated code!

As for your last question, we're talking about source code. So of course copying source code doesn't work, source code doesn't automagically compile itself. Also, the Platform always uses the eSpaces as base for compiling, so any publish or change to eSpaces will overwrite the copied source code. I have succesfully made changes to source code and compiled it when I was tracking Platform bugs, but those changes are always very temporary.

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11 Aug 2016

Thanks for the reply Kilian,

I thought the same. The problem is when someone ask a comparison of what has been changed from last release and people are used to know the file names.

By source code copy I meant that from one IIS server to another, but i realized that OuySystems also keep metadata in the database, so it can't be done.

Shashank 



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19 Aug 2016
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Kilian Hekhuis
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Hi Devu,

The generated code lives _on the server_, not on your local development machine. You can only look at the generated code if you have access to the file system of the server (which e.g. is not the case for a cloud-based solution like the Personal Environments).

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16 Feb 2018

Kilian Hekhuis wrote:

Hi Devu,

The generated code lives _on the server_, not on your local development machine. You can only look at the generated code if you have access to the file system of the server (which e.g. is not the case for a cloud-based solution like the Personal Environments).

Hi Kilian,

   Are you saying that i can't view the generated code? I really need to see the generated code for evaluation purpose. What should i do?

Regards,

 Devu

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16 Feb 2018
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Kilian Hekhuis
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Hi Devu,

That's true, you cannot see the code. Depending on what type of evaluation you want to do, you should contact your OutSystems sales rep.

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16 Feb 2018

Hi,

Can I get somewhere a sample C# code with any Outsystems UI component, generated by Outsystems Platform? I have a client who needs to see this generated C# code by the Outsystems platform in the backend before buying the OutSystems license and get started with it.

 
Note - I don't have access to any Outsystems IIS Servers as I am using Outsystems Cloud Environment.

Thanks & Regards 

Nitish Kumar

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24 Sep 2021
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Kilian Hekhuis
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Hi Nitish,

This is an old topic (original post almost 7 years ago, last post over 3 years ago), so it's in general best to start a new topic in that case.

That said, if buying an OS licence depends on the source code generated, it's better to contact the account manager that's responsible for the client. Also, since all new clients will be offered Reactive Web only, not traditional web, all OutSystems UI components will be Reactive components, and hence not C# but JavaScript.

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24 Sep 2021

Replying to Kilian Hekhuis' comment on 24 Sep 2021 12:23:49

So when detach, then all Outsystems related C# code that export can run independently without the Outsystems. Does it mean the core system code in C# will also be included (even not comment or hard to see what it is) will be provided so that we can safely say we can use those detached codes to be compiled and run freely from Outsystems ? It is a very valuable investment protection.

If we can only have detached code that generated solely for my development and any reference to Oustsystems are not included after detached, then I dont think I can get the code enough to run independently.

Which is correct ?

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10 Apr
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Kilian Hekhuis
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Replying to Ken Kan's comment on 10 Apr 2022 02:45:48

Hi Ken,

You do not get the source code of the core system, instead you will get the Runtime Platform DLLs etc. This will also guarantee that you can compile and run your code. However, any questions about this should be directed at your OutSystems sales person or local sales office, the forum is not the right place for these questions.  See here for more information about the detach process.

I'll close this topic now, it's very old and I don't think there's anything new to add.

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