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Re : Make Apps for iOS, Android & Blackberry devices using lungo.js
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2011-06-15 10-51-22
Joop Stringer
Looks promising, don't like the styling so much, but that's a personal matter LOL

BTW, no APPS but HTML5 (small grin)
2018-03-08 20-43-12
Robert Chanphakeo
@Joop

Its actually a fairly good mobile framework! simple to use and quite snappy! (....some mobile framework lags!)

You might prefer sencha?  
https://www.sencha.com/products/touch/
2011-06-15 10-50-19
Miguel Ventura
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Seems like a promising framework, following design patterns that have been emerging in Android and Metro apps.

However, the maturity seems somewhat low at this point. I've experienced some errors with their demo in webkit and couldn't make it work at all in Firefox. Personally I wouldn't consider it for production use at this point, but I'll keep watching its evolution, as I sure expect it to grow more robust.
2018-03-08 20-43-12
Robert Chanphakeo
@Miguel

Probably better to use sencha touch or JQuery touch, however these framework do not come with the slide bar UX .

https://www.sencha.com/products/touch/
2011-06-15 10-51-22
Joop Stringer
I've been working with Senza and jQTouch in the past (LOL) in combination with Outsystems ... it's a drag :-(
The transistions (and other stuff) don't work because pages need to loaded before actually shown on screen.

Also the Outsystems mobile framework is a bit awkward to work with. Only one transition, loading costs ages.
No use for mobile users.

Better to create a slimline (lean) mobile framework yourself ... I've used this one https://asyraf9.github.com/jquery-mobile/
worked out pretty fine.
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Robbie Nati
Hi Joop,

How difficult is it to use your own mobile framework with the Outsystems mobile app. What would be involved? Is it much harder to maintain?

You are spot on with the current Outsystems mobile framework. The single transition is annoying, and the loading is very slow. Even the native mobile app created for NextStep is poor. The very slow response from a  touch command deems this useless from a users point of view.

The Agile Platfom for building a desktop web app is phenomenal. Absoultely brilliant. However the mobile app performance is nowhere near as good.

Are there any alternatives to building a mobile app using the Outsystems Agile Platform?
2011-06-15 10-51-22
Joop Stringer
I've created a iPad app using jQuery Mobile and thie bit of code https://asyraf9.github.com/jquery-mobile/ for creating an actual spiltscreen on iPad.
The current outsystems mobile platform doesn't support that.

How hard it is ... depends on your skills to incorporate JS files and working with jQuery etc in outsystems ...
It's hard to figure out a way of communication between os and the additional stuff.

The problem is still that it loads a bunch of JS's which are pretty heavy (app 150k) every call you make.

It would be nice to have a trimmed down version of the jQuery files and other stuff outsystems is (unnecessary) loading.
Or at least have the ability to add only those JS files you need in an application.
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Robbie Nati
Joop Stringer wrote:
I've created a iPad app using jQuery Mobile and thie bit of code https://asyraf9.github.com/jquery-mobile/ for creating an actual spiltscreen on iPad.
The current outsystems mobile platform doesn't support that.

How hard it is ... depends on your skills to incorporate JS files and working with jQuery etc in outsystems ...
It's hard to figure out a way of communication between os and the additional stuff.

The problem is still that it loads a bunch of JS's which are pretty heavy (app 150k) every call you make.

It would be nice to have a trimmed down version of the jQuery files and other stuff outsystems is (unnecessary) loading.
Or at least have the ability to add only those JS files you need in an application.
 
 Do you have a sample OML file to demonstrate the basics?
I would love to see how Outsystems and the jquery-mobile plaforms work together.
2011-06-15 10-51-22
Joop Stringer
Robbie Nati wrote:
 
 Do you have a sample OML file to demonstrate the basics?
I would love to see how Outsystems and the jquery-mobile plaforms work together.
 
 Sorry, it was a lot of work, I'm not givin that away (YET) :-)
2018-03-08 20-43-12
Robert Chanphakeo
@Joop have you tried minifying the javascription to reduce its size? https://lmgtfy.com/?q=minify+javascript


2011-06-15 10-51-22
Joop Stringer
Robert Chanphakeo wrote:
@Joop have you tried minifying the javascription to reduce its size? https://lmgtfy.com/?q=minify+javascript

 
 
 It's outsystems internal JS file so I cannot do anything to it ...
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Robbie Nati
Joop, please contact me at rnati@kpcagency.com.au if you would consider paid/contract work for your mobile platform.

Robbie

2018-03-08 20-43-12
Robert Chanphakeo
Joop Stringer wrote:
 
 It's outsystems internal JS file so I cannot do anything to it ...
 
 Ive asked outsystems to minify their javascript a very long time ago, hope they fix that soon? :)

Development mode - leave the javascript unminify.
Production mode - minify the javascript

SPEED is important! 

2018-03-08 20-43-12
Robert Chanphakeo

@Robbie Nati, interesting you are from Australia, we are also from Australia :)


Swiitch: https://www.outsystems.com/search/swiitch


As for Jquery mobile, its probably easier to contact joop!, since he has  already implemented jquery mobile :)

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