[The Experiment] An Agile Platform Community Driven Project

Robert Chanphakeo

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This is an experiment....

I would like to see if it is actually possible to get a few developers together, to build a community driven Agile Platform application.

The project will be open source (free), and upon completion, the project will be released to outsystems forge - free.

I will contribute to architectural design, database design, project management and lead this project!

If this project fails - it will fail because of me, and everyone will see this failure! (public failure can not be good) BUT if this project succeeds then the entire outsystems community, including outsystems will benefit from our team effort.

Please leave a comment below....

If you are a developer and willing to contribute to this open source community project; tell us your skill level, how you would beable contriibute to this project and how much time per day/week you can contribute (maybe you might learn something from this experience or maybe I might learn something from you! :) )
If you are not a developer, leave a comment below and tell us what product you would like us to built^ and/or if you can contribute in providing bug testing/feedback or anything else.

^Your suggested product should be generic enough so you could use this product yourself and also everyone else can use it too

Suggested Project Ideas

CMS (Content Management System)
ERP (Enterprise resource planning)
CRM (Customer Relationship Management)
Other - please leave a comment below.

Note: The project is to be developed from scratch and managed on github.com. No project will be started, if the required resource can not be sourced. We could start with a basic CMS, release a weekly build and continue to add new features every month then build advance features on top!

What do you think? If you have a better idea or dont like this idea or any of this ...still leave a comment below;

Your opinion matters! either good or bad! it all counts! :)

20 Feb 2013

Justin James

MVP

You know I'd love to... especially a CMS or a CRM... but the fact is, I'm already WELL behind as you know.

That said, I'd definitely consider donating my "SaaS Framework" to such a project. It needs to be updated to v. 7's multitenancy if I recall, but it's a good place to start for anything that would serve a SaaS role.

J.Ja

20 Feb 2013

MVP

I'm interested.

I am a developer :)

20 Feb 2013

Gonçalo Martins

Staff

Why not?!!
I don't have a lot of free time but I'm available to help in what I can as a developer..

20 Feb 2013

Rebecca Hall

I'm always looking for ways to improve my outsystems skills, I would love to participate.

20 Feb 2013

Gregg Petch

I think this is a great idea. A CMS system would be a nice place to start.

Ultimately I would like to see us apply all of the great tools available through Outsystems to develop native APPS.

I consider myself an intermediate Outsystems Developer and have 10 hours a week to contribute to a community project.

Regards,

Gregg

21 Feb 2013

MVP

Btw, I started (and abandoned) to create a Wiki-clone in Outsystems. I got a basic engine working to parse wiki-text. Might be an idea to create a wiki instead of a cms...

22 Feb 2013

Robert Chanphakeo

Our Goal:

Standardise architecture for building Cloud Apps
Standardise architecture for building forge components for the agile platform and keep them up to date (effortlessly)

Provide new or existing businesses with a cloud ready framework and include a range of extendable plug and play business solutions.

End Goal: Help developers save time, business save money, grow outsystems forge community, and at the same time help grow Outsystems business globally by making it even easier to get started using the agile platform.

First we will release our SaaS framework designed for Cloud apps.

Next, on top our Framework, we will build a Wiki module, which will be designed especially for business/developers needing to write technical documents.

When we are good at doing wiki's, we expand our product features to include CMS, when we are good at doing CMS, we will add CRM features first starting with a customer support portal/help desk solution and from here we will continue to build upon features upon features, extending our framework with a range of open source business solution to help more businesses get started on using Outsystems Agile Platform.

Features you can expect from our SaaS "Cloud Ready" Framework

A highly scalable and modular SaaS framework designed for Cloud Ready apps
Web security with dynamic security management, create or update roles and permissions without ever having to recompile/republish your application.
Multi user access enabled, without the need to create multiple user accounts, works just like salesforce, xero, paypal etc
Single sign-on via Oauth (the industry standard, as used by major service provider facebook, twitter, google etc)
Streamline user registration, by enabling user's to Signup via Facebook, Signup via Twitter, or Signup via Google
Multi tenant ready architecture designed for cloud apps.
Forge Component Search, Install, Update, and Notification Alerts baked right into our Framework. (Keeping your agile platform components always up-to-date)
And of cause, the framework to allow any 3rd party developers to build and extend our Cloud Ready Framework with their own custom business features.

22 Feb 2013

MVP

Ambitious :)

25 Feb 2013

Bert Koot

I am very interested but just started to learn using outsytems (Just finished virtual bootcamp ;o). But I have a lot of development experience (Oracle). So maybe I can help the project and get familiar with the platform in the meantime. I can contribute several days a week (still looking for an assignment at the moment).

05 Mar 2013

Bert Koot

05 Mar 2013

Gavin Horne

I'm a relatively new OutSystems developer but would love to help out if I can.

06 Mar 2013

Robert Chanphakeo

Thanks.

First the, good news, we could start next week, also confirmed certain outsysystems staff will be joining this project, either by providing feedback and/or contributions.

Bad news? we still need
1 x dedicated hacker with development experience in C# .NET, web services, OAuth, and knowledge of HTML, CSS, JavaScript/AJAX, jQuery.
1 x dedicated front-end web developer with strong skills in object orientated, JavaScript/AJAX, jQuery, HTML5 / CSS3 and Responsive UX Design.
(Without them, it could take awhile, I'm one guy with limited time, at most I could contribute 5 to 10 hours per week, but if I have to, I might be able to give up 1 day of my weekend to build something awesome with you guys)

Contributiors?
PM your skype details, I would like to know who I am working with and know abit more about you and your skillsets :)

Speak to you soon!

08 Mar 2013

Rebecca Hall

I can help with the front end development. I have limited time as well ... but maybe if we do it as a team we can compenstate.

08 Mar 2013

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Rebecca Hall wrote:

I can help with the front end development. I have limited time as well ... but maybe if we do it as a team we can compenstate.

Great!

Are you able to...

Convert from PSD photoshop files into an Outsystems Studio theme?
Convert from html/css/javascript into an Outsystems Studio theme?

14 Mar 2013

Rebecca Hall

Robert Chanphakeo wrote:

Rebecca Hall wrote:

I can help with the front end development. I have limited time as well ... but maybe if we do it as a team we can compenstate.

Great!

Are you able to...

Convert from PSD photoshop files into an Outsystems Studio theme?
Convert from html/css/javascript into an Outsystems Studio theme?

Yes. I should be able to do that.

14 Mar 2013

Gonçalo Martins

Staff

Rebecca Hall wrote:

Robert Chanphakeo wrote:

Rebecca Hall wrote:

I can help with the front end development. I have limited time as well ... but maybe if we do it as a team we can compenstate.

Great!

Are you able to...

Convert from PSD photoshop files into an Outsystems Studio theme?
Convert from html/css/javascript into an Outsystems Studio theme?

Yes. I should be able to do that.

I also can help on the point 2.

14 Mar 2013

Eric Oud Ammerveld

Robert, do you have some kind of hosted server?

09 Mar 2013

Eric Oud Ammerveld

Ohw and my point of view on ambition is the only thing that can limit a person is the lack of ambition so aim high!

09 Mar 2013

Robert Chanphakeo

@Eric, we dont have a server for this project online at this stage, but could have one online if needed.

13 Mar 2013

Robert Chanphakeo

Datamodel Draft #1 View

13 Mar 2013

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Robert Chanphakeo wrote:

Datamodel Draft #1 View

Can't view dropbox files here.
It's blocked.

14 Mar 2013

Paulo Moreira

MVP

I'm IN.....

13 Mar 2013

Richard

I've not used the platform for long, but I am very interested if I can help.

14 Mar 2013

Harry Marrenga

I am an experienced Java developer so I can do the Java porting; not sure if that's in scope for initial version. If not I can still pick any security integration topic and general Outsystems Development.
Cheers.

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Harry Marrenga wrote:

Porting to JAVA would be great!

14 Mar 2013

Alan Singer

Staff

Robert,

This is an awesome initiative. I have just seen this and offer whatever assistance I can..user testing, product ideas, usability...let me know what would be useful.

24 Mar 2013

Robert Chanphakeo

Good news,

Lastweek, I had a meeting with Outsystems product management team, and .....? Outsystems will be rolling out backend support to help us achieve our goal.

I signed an NDA, so that's all I could say right now.

(Outsystems just made everything really easy - Thanks) :)

28 Mar 2013

Robert Chanphakeo

@Rebecca , Goncalo, Great!

@Alan, Thanks.

28 Mar 2013

Bert Koot

Good news! Congratulations on the result achieved

28 Mar 2013

Robert Chanphakeo

Update: Final Data model: DONE!

Added - user "Directory".

Comments?

09 Apr 2013

Bert Koot

Can you give us a description of the entities? I can not figure out for some entities why you added them. Some of them are obvious though. Can a user not be part of two directories? Why don't all entities have the create/update atriitbutes. And should the user who updated the record not be part of the entity. But maybe this discussion can be postponed. Because this information is for the technical datamodel not the logical datamodel.

09 Apr 2013

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Robert Chanphakeo

Bert Koot wrote:

"Platform" is a middleware application that integrates web applications into a single security architecture, supporting single sign-on and centralised identity management using industry standard OAuth authorisation protocol (https://oauth.net).

"Platform" works by dispatching authentication and authorisation calls from configured applications to configured directories.

"Platform" supports an unlimited number of user directories.

A directory can be one of the following types

Internal to Agile Platform (ie staff etc)
Internal to "Platform" (ie customers etc)
External Database? (ie partners etc)

Once you have defined a directory, you can map the directory to one or more applications.

An application consume web service API functionality that can enable your organisation, and 3rd party developers with the ability to build custom interface, functionality and specialised operations.

10 Apr 2013

Rebecca Hall

Can't see the screen shots ... can they be uploaded directly to outsystems site?

09 Apr 2013

Gonçalo Martins

Staff

Me neither...
Please attach them to your post..

09 Apr 2013

22bc63ff-d68c-4193-824e-d79d2714f8b3

Hi, I can see the images fine, here are the image links:

https://dl.dropbox.com/u/678582/Outsystems/Forum/PlatformConcept.png
https://dl.dropbox.com/u/678582/Outsystems/Forum/PlatformData.png

@topic: I am not familiar with the project/logic of it but maybe you can sum the token entities into just 1 entity with more attributes?

Best Regards,
Miguel Vieira

09 Apr 2013

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Robert Chanphakeo

Miguel Vieira wrote:

In order to avoid duplication, and redundant data, the database design has been normalised to the 3rd normal form.

10 Apr 2013

Robert Chanphakeo

Hello

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10 Apr 2013

MVP

bah, cannot donwload it at my work :/

10 Apr 2013

Carla Ribeiro da Fonseca

I already have a working-ish CMS that we use to actually power a few sites at where I work (and some time ago the actual "corporate site" too).

Actually it was made by OutSystems way way way long ago (let's just say that it was before RichWidgets was part of the platform...)

On the plus side, it mostly works and integrates with Enterprise Manager. Oh! And is multi-lingual!

On the minus side, quite a few things don't work (and never did, as far as I recall)...

10 Apr 2013

Robert Chanphakeo

A highly scalable and modular SaaS framework designed for Cloud Ready apps [Completed]
Web security with dynamic security management, create or update roles and permissions without ever having to recompile/republish your application. [Completed - and its good]
Multi user access enabled, without the need to create multiple user accounts, works just like salesforce, xero, paypal etc [Completed, perfect!]
Single sign-on via Oauth (the industry standard, as used by major service provider facebook, twitter, google etc) [Functional prototype, does not yet comply with OAuth protocal]
Streamline user registration, by enabling user's to Signup via Facebook, Signup via Twitter, or Signup via Google [Functional prototype, add-on via module]^
Multi tenant ready architecture designed for cloud apps. [Models implemented]
Forge Component Search, Install, Update, and Notification Alerts baked right into our Framework. [Pending]
And of cause, the framework to allow any 3rd party developers to build and extend our Cloud Ready Framework with their own custom business features. [Pending]

^Social connect, not required by every company, feature excluded from core framework, optional module.

22 Apr 2013

Robert Chanphakeo

Update: Yes its working but not available to the general public! Need to clean it up!

Outsystems built a private API, that too is not available to the general public, im also testing this!

19 Jun 2013

MVP

So any news on this project? :)

09 Oct 2013

Mark Bayles

So where did this go?

20 Mar 2014

Newbie 2

Any news? or the project gone dead

19 Jul 2014

Robert Chanphakeo

Hello

Update: I received a number of private messages and emails asking me what happened to this project, did you finish building it? when are you going to open source it?

This cloud user identity management portal was successfully built! It includes the following features

A highly scalable and modular SaaS framework designed for Cloud Ready apps [Completed]
Web security with dynamic security management, create or update roles and permissions without ever having to recompile/republish your application. [Completed]
Multi user access enabled, without the need to create multiple user accounts, works just like salesforce, xero, paypal etc [Completed]
Single sign-on via Oauth (the industry standard, as used by major service provider facebook, twitter, google etc)[Completed]
Streamline user registration, by enabling user's to Signup via Facebook, Signup via Twitter, or Signup via Google [Completed in separate module]
Multi tenant ready architecture designed for cloud apps. [Completed]
Forge Component Search, Install, Update, and Notification Alerts baked right into our Framework. [Not built-in product, instead i've been working together with outsystems to make this feature offical]
Allow any 3rd party developers to build and extend our Cloud Ready Framework with their own custom business features. [Completed]

Unfortunately, I'm unable to open source this project, for reasons that are beyond my control!

If you are an enterprise with unlimited user license, and interested in obtaining a copy of this product, contact Alan Singer @ outsystems Australia for licensing details.

20 Jan 2015

Newbie001

So the community effort is dead!

21 Jan 2015

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