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  • Free Tier - personal environment w/ 1Gb data
  • Middle Cloud Tier - $20/mo per server with 10Gb data, 50 users, and custom domains but without enterprise customer support
  • Middle DIY Tier - $10/mo per Outsystems platform server instance
  • Enterprise Tier - $1600/mo for enterprise environment/support
I'd like to see a "middle tier" in order for experienced developers and small businesses & non-profits to gain entry to this amazing tool!
You're asking OS to make their platform about 90% cheaper? Yeah, that'll work :).
Granted I threw out a pricing idea that's not very realistic.  But at the core I'd really like to see a middle pricing tier in order to lower the barrier of entry.
2016-04-21 20-09-55
J.
 
MVP
bit cheap, but we should have a priced-personal-cloud environment yes :)
Yeah, the numbers themselves are definitely on the low side, but I like the idea. It's hard to proof-on-concept stuff when I know I have to go from "free on Personal tier" to "$1,600/month" (or whatever Enterprise Edition is right now).

But... I also have to remind myself who the target audience is (enterprises) and what the personal environment is for (learning), and that it's only a small number of vocal folks (us) who see OutSystems as the hammer for almost all nails, AND constantly dream about having our own startup company AND can't afford $1,600/month until money starts coming in. :D

J.Ja

Good idea!!!!

many software companies have a middle tier pricing model for smb, not crazy to ask.

2018-04-06 14-15-37
Pedro Martinho
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Hi Joshua,

Thanks for your idea. 

As commented by some other OutSystems aficionados the focus of OutSystems is on Enterprise software, as such the price point may not be palatable for smaller companies or individual developers. 

We aim to align the pricing with the value delivered to the client. We feel that the complexity and size of what is built, as well as who uses the apps and features built with OutSystems, are a better proxy than GB used or server instances. 

Right now our focus is on our target market, providing an enterprise grade platform to enterprise clients. 

Cheers,

Pedro

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Merged this idea with 'Cheaper Outsystems Licensing Version' (created on 25 Jan 2024 16:09:37 by Rafael M)

Currently. There is only the Free (but the free is not usefull for creating a real project, only for studying purpose, because it has a deleting of the project if you don´t "wake-up" it constantly, this is tiring), and the annual $1,513, wich for the most part of the small business and single-developers it´s unreachable. 

I´d suggest that had another option for, for example 100~200USD/year or something like that, where the small users could use Outsystems as their MAIN and REAL (serious) development IDE. For their own and their businesses projects! It would be great.
Maybe you can limit some resources for those pricings... Or just create a "start" plan, and sell the resources appart when the user needs it by demand.

This is a dream of mine since 2018 when I´ve known Outsystems for the first time!! I guess it´s a dream of lots of other users...

Please search for ideas page first, so I don't have to merge duplicate ideas.

Merged this idea with 'Outsytems for Independent Developers' (created on 19 Mar 2019 15:20:26 by Nicholas van Wyngaard)

Independent developers can benefit greatly from a licensing structure which grows more organically with the growth of their client applications. 

The natural response would be to refer to the Personal Environments as a solution, however they do not address the complete requirements of full production grade application (single development environment, limited application capacity, auto environment deprecation). 

Perhaps a lightweight licensing structure can be offered to developers at a reduced rate. The light weight version could have all the benefits of fully fledged enterprise environment, however an additional fee is charged per application released to production. 

This will allow independent developers to create applications for potential customer who then eventually pay for the application in production. This fee will contain both the cost of the application in the production environment, as well as the additional cost for the actual development.  

I am not aware of any licensing structure or program which might facilitate this, perhaps there should be?

Would be beneficial for a lot of freelancers and small players I think. Thumbs up!

2019-04-08 10-40-12
Carina Fonseca
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Merged this idea with 'New Enviroment / Upgrade Personal Environment' (created on 24 Oct 2019 16:49:03 by Rubens Arruda)

Creating a cheaper environment with some advantages over the personal environment. For example, allowing URL custamization, more database space, not inactivating the environment. This would motivate independent developers to develop in OutSystems for small customers.




This comment was:
- originally posted on idea 'New Enviroment / Upgrade Personal Environment' (created on 24 Oct 2019 by Rubens Arruda)
- merged to idea 'Outsytems for Independent Developers' on 10 May 2021 06:17:29 by Daniël Kuhlmann

Great! I would need that. It would really help a lot of people and increase interest in the platform for more people and small businesses.

+1



This comment was:
- originally posted on idea 'New Enviroment / Upgrade Personal Environment' (created on 24 Oct 2019 by Rubens Arruda)
- merged to idea 'Outsytems for Independent Developers' on 10 May 2021 06:17:29 by Daniël Kuhlmann
Changed the category to
Licensing


This comment was:
- originally posted on idea 'New Enviroment / Upgrade Personal Environment' (created on 24 Oct 2019 by Rubens Arruda)
- merged to idea 'Outsytems for Independent Developers' on 10 May 2021 06:17:29 by Daniël Kuhlmann
Merged this idea with 'License for freelancers' (created on 10 May 2021 01:06:51 by Burt Wang)

The IPP is good but pretty strict. Need some reasonable priced freelancer cloud account.



This comment was:
- originally posted on idea 'License for freelancers' (created on 10 May 2021 by Burt Wang)
- merged to idea 'Outsytems for Independent Developers' on 10 May 2021 06:18:35 by Daniël Kuhlmann
Merged this idea with 'Developer edition subscription model' (created on 01 May 2021 16:40:30 by Chris Womble)

I appreciate your Free tier of Outsystems and use it from time to time, even though it is a bit slower and falls asleep from time to time. Sometimes though, we just need a little more


Problem: 

But, as an Outsystems Developer who wants (needs) just a little more than what the Free tier offers, most working people cannot afford the Basic $4,000/month package and neither can many small businesses.


Solution:

Engage with AWS or Azure and offer a monthly Outsystems DEV subscription tier at a reasonable and affordable price point (e.g. 20-50 USD/month) 

This would include 2 environments, an additional pipe and enhanced customer success and up scaled performance. This new revenue stream could open new opportunities for small independent developers and increase Outsystems exposure.



This comment was:
- originally posted on idea 'Developer edition subscription model' (created on 01 May 2021 by Chris Womble)
- merged to idea 'Outsytems for Independent Developers' on 10 May 2021 09:00:12 by Daniël Kuhlmann

Not the same, but related idea:
https://www.outsystems.com/ideas/5665/provide-different-editions-of-service-studio-better-adjusted-to-developers-citiz




This comment was:
- originally posted on idea 'Developer edition subscription model' (created on 01 May 2021 by Chris Womble)
- merged to idea 'Outsytems for Independent Developers' on 10 May 2021 09:00:12 by Daniël Kuhlmann
Merged this idea with 'Personal environment should have some features which are only available for Paid' (created on 19 May 2021 05:15:31 by Mangesh Phanse)

Any software application lasts long when it is acceptable by masses. OutSystems is fantastic PaaS solution. It should be used by maximum developer community. 

At present few things are not available for personal environments

1- Analytics

2- Testing cicd in lifetime

3- Code review by Architectural dashboard

If such feature available to personal environments, outsystem will find more competent developer base.

Also out systems must have small paid version. 4000$ per month is not affordable amount to small entrepreneurs in third world. 


Some leading it companies came up with such editions to ensure masses will do development.

Personal and economy editions(50$ per month) with all development and operational features of service center and lifetime will provide more stability to the OutSystems.



This comment was:
- originally posted on idea 'Personal environment should have some features which are only available for Paid' (created on 19 May 2021 by Mangesh Phanse)
- merged to idea 'Outsytems for Independent Developers' on 23 May 2021 10:04:30 by Daniël Kuhlmann
Merged this idea with 'Free/per usage licensing option for environment in production for solopreneurs/small businesses in the cloud/on premise' (created on 16 Jul 2021 21:40:46 by Borislav Sh.)

PROBLEM: 

Currently, there is no option for non-enterprise users of Outsystems to use applications in production due to the high starting price for a commercial license. This makes the platform practically impossible to be used from a solopreneur/ solo developer/ small development teams and startups, due to the high initial costs involved. 

IDEA: 

Introducing a free/per usage licensing option for developers to launch commercial apps in production. Possible options include:

- resource-based usage (similar to AWS) or per external user number (similar to PowerApps; Mendix; Appian) hosted commercial business model.

- entirely free/cheap self-hosted on-premise infrastructure for non-profits and/or solo developers/ small teams (similar to Microsoft's Community editions for Visual Studio, which is entirely free for commercial use for teams of up to 5 developers; Appgyver).


Such a move could potentially grow the user base and the community enormously, which in turn could drive extremely high revenues in the long run, not mentioning the fact, that OutSystems would be the first major low-code platform leading the way with such a huge move and further popularizing the platform and making the brand stronger.



This comment was:
- originally posted on idea 'Free/per usage licensing option for environment in production for solopreneurs/small businesses in the cloud/on premise' (created on 16 Jul 2021 by Borislav Sh.)
- merged to idea 'Outsytems for Independent Developers' on 18 Jul 2021 06:37:37 by Daniël Kuhlmann
Merged this idea with 'Pay as you go licence price for independent developers or small studios' (created on 18 Nov 2021 14:57:05 by Mykola (Nick) Tkachenko)

As an independent developer or part of small startup that can't afford license fee I would like to have option for licensing that allows to publish apps to play and App Stores or add custom url. It would be fair to pay fee depending on load amount or revenue generated (limit of installations for example). This will allow to propose OutSystems to small businesses and startups. 

Lightweight licensing and cost-effective availability of all features will help small Firms to opt Out Systems  for delivering solution. Microsoft is widspread because offers all solutions with student edition. More people know and master Microsoft technologies at free. If outsystems follows it , it will help to build more skilled community

Hi Mangesh,

I get what you write, but mastering OutSystems technology is also for free. All I learned on OutSystems, and I have come a long way, I did from the free training material. If you play it smart and with some luck you can get your hand on free certification vouchers too. And the OutSystems certifications don't expire, as they do with a lot of other technology stack certification programs.

The question is if you want to be an OutSystems developer for a small company with little budget to develop applications, or a bigger enterprise company with more budget and opportunities to build cool software.

Regards,

Daniel

Merged this idea with 'Cheaper Paid Plan' (created on 11 Dec 2022 13:46:51 by Rafael Feria Muzel)

What about an idea for Outsystems team to be able to create a low-cost pricing for small companies, for any company who wants to implement a system with bit more limited dedicated server. I believe they are ready to receive many customers to be able to use this pricing plan and it will help to popularize and improve outsystems in the world. 

I let this idea here.

Nothing yet. As I can see OUTSYSTEM business model is not for normal users...they don't want OUTSYSTEMS to be popularized... as a revolutionary way to program...only HUGE companies can use it. Useles... Normal people and small business are in need to keep using PHP, NODE.JS, JAVA, .NET normal and open-source / free programming.
I have different vision. Maybe if OUTSYSTEMS open for cheaper, it will explode as WORLD-WIDE will be adopt it as new model of programming "language" and this will grow as rocket! But... everyone has it's own way to see things...

We would all love that Rafael, but as long as we're not in charge, we have to make do with what the company decides is best for them :).